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Hearing held to determine fate of Saginaw after-hours club

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(12/03/12) - An after-hours club in Saginaw will remain closed while the city reviews testimony given at a hearing on whether it should have been operating in the first place.

There was a shooting outside the Thunder Room two weeks ago, which brought attention to what was going on inside that building.

"We are here for an administrative hearing for the suspension of business activities," said Phil Ludos, assistant city manager.

The suspension of business activities is at the Thunder Room on Genesee Avenue on the city's eastside. It was back on Nov. 24 when a man was shot outside the building.

The 27-year-old man survived, but the business did not. The city of Saginaw shut it down the following Tuesday, claiming the owners did not have a valid business license and that criminal activity has happened near the building, including the recent shooting.

The man who operates the Thunder Room is Lorman Dale, who had little to say at the hearing.

"At this time, I have no comment," he said.

Saginaw's building inspector, John Stemple, ordered the building closed and was the first to testify.

Stemple testified the last known business to operate out of the building was a day care, but the building's owners, including Dale, did not follow proper procedures to open it up as a rental hall. After his testimony, Dale walked out of the hearing without commenting further.

Testimony also showed police have been called to the after-hours club 15 times since September.

"Most of them seem to be fights, weapons or shootings of some sort, shots fired," said Sgt. Brent Vanderhaar of the Saginaw Police Department.

Ludos will now make a decision on whether the business should remain closed, a decision that should come soon.

"There is no rebuttal to the charges, the license, it's clear there is not a permit to operate this business as it is operating," Ludos said.

Getting back to the shooting outside the club, Saginaw Police say an arrest warrant in the case will be issued soon.

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